Paul Gomez

  I built my first pigeon cage in 1960, at the age of 15.  My first pigeon was a “commie” (common street pigeon), that my aunt had rescued and nursed back to health following some injury.  Its name was Godfrey.  Soon Godfrey had brought back a little brown grizzle short faced tumbler.  I was excited, thinking that I might see their babies tumble.  But that was not to be.  they didn’t even tailset, just an occasional popping of their wings.

        Now I was on a search for real rollers, and I found that a couple of other kids in the neighborhood had rollers.  I was able to buy a couple from them.  Godfrey and his family had to go!  It  was to be rollers only, from that point onward, although I have to admit that at one point I tried the parlor cross. 

       I bought a pair of red mottles from a pet shop in Venice.  The store owner said that the man who bred them had paid a lot for their parents.  I flew them, and they were very fast, but short spinners.  When I bred the hen to a red roller cock I already had, it made the first rolldown that I had ever seen.  The bird rolled down in a neighbors’ driveway, and died on impact.  This left me with a permanent distaste for this fault.

     However, I also bred what was one of my best rollers ever, out of that pair.  I called it the Spangle Cock.  It rolled about 25 feet in perfect sytle, showing the hole.  It was stolen seven times, and flew back home each time.

      In the mid sixties I learned that Bill Pensom lived in Canoga Park, a short distance away.  I looked up his phone number and arranged to visit him.  On the first visit, he gave me an overprint copy of his book.  This treasured object was to guide me through the murky waters of hearsay and myth.  When my birds were stolen I returned to Mr. Pensom to buy more.  The second time, he went to a cage in the rear of the property, and brought me a small dun hen, and said, “Take this one.  She rolls like a bull”.  When I flew it,  she was the best performer I had ever seen.

      Mr. Pensom had the greatest influence on me…  by far…  in terms of learning and appreciating the breed.   Later, Cornell Norwood, who had been a friend of Bill Pensom, was to make a big impact on my pigeon breeding through his birds and knowledge of the Pensom birds.  Ron Dent also provided me with great assistamce by the extended loan of a great producing cock.

     My family of birds goes back the original Red Roller cock, and the “Pet Shop Red Mottle” I mentioned.  I have, of course introduced other birds throughout the years, in an effort to produce the best, but they have all been mingled with that original blood.

     My family of rollers has been bred straight, without a cross, for the past 24 years.  My birds are generally characterized by their speed, consistent body type and textured eyes, I would say.  My strain also includes birds carrying the qualmond gene, as well as a substrain of muffed rollers.

Gomez Strain of Rollers–Pictures

Posted in Breeding with tags , , , , on September 18, 2008 by larclub

Black and White Foundation Hen

Black and White Foundation Hen

 My Balck and White Foundation hen was the grandaughter of my Old Spangle Cock.  I didn;t fly her for the first two years, but flew her until she was 14 years old.  She lived 18 years.
The Old Spangle Cock

The Old Spangle Cock

The Old Spangle Cock showed me what a roller was capable of.  A slow developer, he began rolling at one year, then developed into a solid 25 foot spinner which rolled in perfect form showing a clean hole.  This bird was stolen seven times and returned. 
Family Tree of  the Gomez Strain

Family Tree of the Gomez Strain

 I developed this tree in an effort to more easily see what I had been doing in my breeding.  I have found it to be a valuable tool for me, and It has helped others to understand my family of rollers. 

76 CRS #2705  Thunder

76 CRS #2705 Thunder

Thunder was produced from a large but active rolling  cock and a hen that rolled “the  distance” from what ever height she began.  My idea was to acquire the style in a safe stable offspring.  Six of the eight produced by the pair rolled down, but this bird spun right and was stable.  He was one of the main early contributers to my family.
77 CRS #90 Miracle

77 CRS #90 Miracle

Miracle was tha half sister to Thunder, both produced from the large, “Big Daddy”, a blue checker bronze wing produced from an Odie Wright cock bred to a Jerry Higgins Hen.  She was the daighter of my foundation hen, and rolled fairly deep, up to about 40 feet.  She had a beautiful gravel eye full of texture with a strong inner “circle of correlation”.  I bred her to Thunder for about three years.  The occasional recessive reds produced by them were always hot rollers as well as good producers.  The dark checkers were also good, but were less frequent.
79 JCRC #62

79 JCRC #62

62 was my faborite recessive red bred from Miracle and Thunder.  She was extremely reliable and would roll over 40 feet at times.  Day in and day out she would put on a show. 
80 CRS #2059 "the Young Black & White"

80 CRS #2059

A daughter of my foundation hen and one of Cornell Norwoods’  top stock cocks, #47.  She did not roll until 14 months, but the first time I saw her roll she went at least 20 feet, hard and fast.  I had planned to use her for years, but lost her.
83 Gomez #131

83 Gomez #131

I called this hen the 2 Second Hen because she rolled every 2 to 10 seconds.  She was probably the most active bird I have ever had the pleasure of flying.  She also had the stamina to go along with it, and was a good producer as well.
Original 119 Muff Pair

Original 119 Muff Pair

 This was the start of my muff roller project.  This sister and brother were my first muffs.  They were closely bred birds 3 generations (”great grand children”) of Pensom’s 119 cock.. each having that 3 times on their pedigree. 

78 Gomez Purple Band #96
78 Gomez Purple Band #96

  This hen was exceedingly fast.  She spun blood in her eyes, but only once.  I bred great hens from these birds, but never produced a cock that I felt was of value to breed.  My refusal to cross them into my main family led to their near extinction in my loft. 

88 Gomez #412

88 Gomez #412

412 was one of my best producers ever.  I stocked her unflown.  On the ground she had all the quality I could ask for.   Great body, temperment and densly textured eye,

Quite a bit of roller evolution had taken place before I produced this hen.  Unfortunately I didn’t focus the camera on my birds.  Most of my photography involved my children.    My last two crosses led to this hen.  The first was a champion producer, 80 NBRC #234 from Ron Dent.  The other was the heavily muffed hen, 81 NPA KN #355, an outstanding roller that I called Showtime.
91 Gomez #695

91 Gomez #695

This was one of the offspring of 412.  A bird having extreme velocity that would appear to shrink as it approached it’s maximum speed.  A half sister, #591 virtually a look-alike except for having orange eyes, rolled much the same, but was possibly my best producer ever.
90 Gomez #640

90 Gomez #640

640 was a fantastic roller and was great in the stock loft.  His type was about as close to Ideal as any roller I ahve ever had.
94 NBRC GG 683

94 NBRC GG 683

A reintroduction of the 119 muff family blood produced this bird and his full brother, which were the foundation of my current muff substrain.  This bird spun with blur speed, showing a small hole and with tips touching. 
92 IPB #306

92 IPB #306

This son of 591 stands out in my memory as one of the birds having the most beautiful,  smooth  style of roll that I have ever seen.  
08 Gomez #1993

08 Gomez #1993

This hen began spinning at blur speed with excellent style and very frequent, at only 4 months .   Due to the frequency of hawk attacks I was hesitant about flying her further, then, when the falcon appeared, it made my decision. 
Gomez #1430 a son of #640
Gomez # 1441 a son of #640
Gomez #1730

77 Responses to “Paul Gomez”

  1. I LOVE THE WAY YOUR GETTING BACK INTO THE SWING OF THINGS THE HOBBY/SPORT NEEDS YOU.

  2. I see your doing the muff thang.Good looking birds Paul.I have your blood line running through my loft.Mostly MAX LINE,choco bones,helicop,fran,640.My main stuff is MAX, and you know how fast and tight he produces them. I have little MAX,bred by my buddy Leo Jimenez.Thats who showed me the light, as well as Edgar Newman, Brett Evans. Whom breed pure without no crosses in familly.I got some great photos of my birds soon will be placed on line shortly,You and Cornnell rolled the fastest birds.The birds I’ve saw in fly offs,are nothing compare to true thight fast little birds.I fell in love with GOMEZ birds in 1986 in Compton.Met Leo J in 1998 and its been a Gomez thang since.

    • Wow..!! D Lowe,
      I am humbled by your comments..!! Thanks a lot!! I’m glad to see that you’re putting in the work on the birds. That way you’ll get the best results. So you’re in Compton still? I’d like to get by and see your buirds sometime soon. My muffs are based mainly around 591, a little 640 in there too.

  3. corey salery Says:

    Paul
    What can be said about or to you that hasnt been said.. Simply put you are the Man.. Your birds are top shelf and I love what they have done in my own loft.. I am glad I was blessed to obtain your family and have not looked back since acquiring them.. I remember seeing a screamer in your kit and asking u why it was still in the air and you calmly replied “I got to have something up there for my friends to see. That is not rare in my family and you cant keep them all”.. Those words stick with me and were testimony to your Character..

    Thanks
    Corey

    Corey

    • Thanks a lot Corey. We are overdue getting together and checking out the birds. I am retired now and have more time, so I’m starting to devote a lot more time to them.
      Paul

  4. Paul, nice looking birds. Hey I really like #306. Hope to see them on the wing soon. Thanks for sharing.

    • Thanks Sal,
      That 306 rolled with great style. Wish that I had more like he was. I started flying late bthis year, but I did get one real speed ball. She is the badge one on the front page of the site.
      Paul

  5. Randy Silvis Says:

    It’s great to see your birds and the history behind them. I can tell you’ve devoted a lot of time and effort to improve the quality of these special birds. Your line of birds have been the best I have worked with. The type, feather quality, temperment, eye’s, spin quality and a nice variety of colors made your birds a joy to work with. It was always exciting putting up young kits of birds because I always knew something good was going to show up. Oh, and by the way, great web site!

    Thanks Paul,
    Randy

    • Hi Randy,
      It sounds like you aren’t raising birds now. Thanks for the comments. I hope all is well with you. Take care and have a happy holiday season.
      Paul

  6. Hey Paul,

    Your more than welcome to come see me. I don’t live in Compton anymore though, I moved to Phelan. Phelan is up the 15 freeway, about 10 miles west of Victorville. I live about 1 mile from a paved road. We just got about 13 inches of snow, and got snowed in and couldn’t make into to town for a couple of days. The birds however did very well, this was their first snow. The loft stayed warm and I didn’t lose any of my young offspring. They were born down in the basin, so this year when we moved up they had to deal with climate and elevation change. So this proves the point that if you have good quality stock, that you will have good off spring that is resistant to sickness, enviroment and climate change. I’ve only had my birds up here about 4 months, so due to loft construction I was only able to put down 8 pairs. By February I will be done and have 20 pairs down. By Summer 2009 I will have several kits of spinners to fly and for the fellow Birmigham fanciers to watch and enjoy.

    • D Lowe,
      I’ll talk to Leo and see if we both can make a trip out there to see how you are doing. Sounds like you are in a good place to raise rollers. I was out at a friends house, Saturday, with a couple LARC members, to see his birds fly. He flew three kits and there were no BOPs out. Leo came to see them too. We were right at the base of the mountain.
      Then when I got back home, I let the birds rooftop just long enough to scrape the floor of the kitbox, and a redtail swooped in just as I closed the door.

    • hey dude my name is kawi i live in lancaster and i recently got a kit of rollers and they are all banded hdrc and i also got 8 breeders from the same line,ive been flying my birds for about 2 months now and they are all kitting great and rolling good.i would love to meet u or get a chance to speak with u.im sure u can answer alot of the questions i have pls give me a call,661 429 7430

  7. Sounds great, I’ll be looking forward to your visit. BOP’s can really take the fun out of the sport. Unfortunaltly our sport is at the top of their food chain. I checked out Leo’s birds last Sunday, his badgers and selfs are impressive. If anyone wants to email me off list about Birmingham birds my email is lowesloft@yahoo.com.

  8. Your birds are beautiful .This person I know would like to know how to purchase a pair. He thinks very highly of you and your collection. please email me the info. thank you Valencia

  9. Hey paul,i have an almond looking gray muff bird that u bred do u think i can breed it to a Norwood muff.Do u think they would produce good roll.Thanks. By the way great pics of your birds.

    • Rene,
      I got my original muffs from Elliot Norwood, Cornell had bred the parents. The muff you have is from when I took that blood into my main family… but it was already crossed in anyway…. So to answer your question, I think it would be fine. Never any guarantees in this game tho…
      Paul

      • Paul i want to know if you have any almond muff hens for sale or any other muff hens.I need 2 of them please let me know.THANKS

      • larclub Says:

        Okay Rene,
        I’ll send you an e-mail.

  10. glad to see that there is a great way for me to stay connected. I recognize some of these birds. Beautiful!

  11. My friend Leo J. told me about this site – I love your birds and it is very informative.

    Keep it up

  12. paul i”m reading your book thanks it is very helpful i”m flying tomorrow our club fly out laws. i”m flying your birds. they are working good. if u can stop over i would enjoy talking with u.562 879-7242

  13. Douglas Says:

    So, Paul, your book is out?!? It looks like it. That’s great. And it looks like this blog is still rolling.

    • larclub Says:

      Hi Doug,
      Yes the book is out. I’ve been getting good reviews..!! Yes this site is still going. I have to admit that I haven’t done much on it lately, but I do intend to keep adding to it.
      Good to hear from you. Tell Erica and the kids hello for me.

      • Douglas Says:

        Hey! I told the kids and Erika that you said hello. We were just talking about you today. Erika and Mercy are planning to visit LA soon (this summer we hope) and so you might get to see them and say hello. Things up here are good. Glad to hear that the book is doing well! Congrats.

  14. GRECIA WILLIAMS Says:

    HI MR GOMEZ…ITS UR FAVORITE STUDENT…LOL…WELL I JUST DROPPED BY YOUR PAGE AND I WANTED TO LET YOU KNOW THAT THESE PIGEONS YOU GOT HERE ARE VERY NICE…I LIKE YHE LITTLE CHUNKY ONES…LOL TAKE CARE N KEEP IT UP THEY ARE LOOKING REALLY GOOD…

    • larclub Says:

      Hi Sweetie..!! You KNOW that you ARE one of my favorite students,,EVER,..!! Funny, but when I went to the post office there was a young woman there who looked so much like you that I almost asked her if she had a sister.. She was taller than you and looked a little older too.
      It looks like you have a good eye for picking birds.. See I have always known that you are a very gifted person. I went to the LACC volleyball page and saw your pictures there…
      Glad to see that you haven’t forgotten about ol’ Mr Gomez

  15. Albert Perez Says:

    I am very interested in buying a pair ROLLERS if you could please get to me and let me know if you are able to speak we me about the rollers

    Thank You

    Albert Perez

  16. larclub Says:

    Hi Manuel,
    I just e-mailed you…

  17. sparky harrison Says:

    Hello Paul:

    I know you are very busy.I have couple of question.I aquired two birds with your bands on them.could you give me little information on this birds.the band no. are blue bar wf Gomez 1962,and Gomez 257 Almond.Where can i purchase a copy of the book Mr. Norwood wrote.

    Thank You

    Sparky Harrison

    • Hi Sparky,
      The blue bar 1962 is a 2006 bird, the 257 almond muff is also a 2006. It is kind of hard to find a point of reference in describing their make-up, because they are my strain, however the muff has some 119 heavily inbred background. The blue bar has some 591 (322 x 412) background.
      I know that the Cornell Norwood book is available at Boones’ Feed on El Segundo. You might also be able to get a copy from his daughter Arlene. She is a member of the QSDC Magazine website. http://qsdcmag.ning.com/ You can sign on and send her a message.
      Paul

  18. Paul I Need your # again I MOVED and things were every where: I need not say anything about the birds: its already been said 4 a many,many,many,YEARS My Brother its all great and thats the way you have made it . BLESSINGSSSS 2 you & yours!!!!!

  19. THANKS PAUL: I’LL BE CALLING YOU SOON.

  20. HEY WHATS UP PAUL, HOWS THE BIRDS DOING I NO YOUR HAVING BOP PROBLEMS I HOPE YOU CAN GET THREW THEM WITH NO SET BACKS,I’LL BE POSTING MY LAST KIT FOR THIS YEAR ON MY Q.S.D.C SITE LATER ON DURING THE DAY KIT 4, I WEENED THEM A FEW DAYS AGO , THERE SOME GOOD LOOKING SHOW BIRDS BUT WITH THE PERFORMANCE TWIST ON IT, 3 KITS GOING STRONG ABOUT NOW LOL!!!! SO WHEN THE WEATHER COOLS DOWN AND THE BIRDS MATURE ABIT MORE PASS THE MOLT ITS GOING TO RAIN ROLLERS LOL……WHEN YOUR CLUBS DOING A SHOW ?????????????

  21. HEY WHATS UP PAUL, HOW DID THANGS GO AT DANS HOUSE? I NO JUST GOOD, DAN REALLY UNDERSTAND HIS BIRDS AND NO WHAT MAKES THEM WORK, AND BESIDES HE HAVE SOME MATURE BIRDS UP THERE FROM LAST SEASON AGO SO THAT WILL ALLWAYS HELP OUT IN THE LONG RUN. I GOT HIT BY A LARGE FALCON 10-05-09 AND THE KIT SHOOK IT OFF AND STAYED TOGETHER LIKE BUTT CHEEKS LOL..LOL..HE DIDN’T CATCH ANYTHING BUT HE SCRAPED ONE OF MY KIT BIRDS IN THE UPPER WING BUT I PUT SOME MEDS. ON THE BIRD, BUT OTHER THAN THAT THEY DID WELL, LEO IS COMING UP THIS FRIDAY AND I’M GOING TO PUT UP A KIT FOR HIM, SO MAYBE YOU CAN COME UP WITH HIM IF YOUR NOT TO BUSY…SO DID YOU SHUT YOUR KIT DOWN FOR GOOD OR YOUR JUST RESTING THEM????? STAY FOCUS…KEEP UP THE GOOD WORK…GOOD LUCK….

    • Hi Darnell,
      The falcon was on my birds tough… twice. But my birds all got away… 10 of them. He did get most of one’s tail tho…
      Buit a Coopers chased the youngest group and I lost 8. So I decided that I’ve had enough for the season.. It’s getting worse by the day and the falcons know where I’m at… I didn’t really get to see any of my birds really come in to my satisfaction this year…

  22. Merry Christmas Paul, hows the birds? my birds are doing fine I have some real good spinners I’ve been breeding sense I”ve been raising In Phelan, I got good results with these birds, so I’m going to have them ready for the W/C in 2010 and the fall fly etc. MAX passed away 2 months ago but I BRED ALOT OF HIS OFFSPRINGS tho….good luck with the birds…

    • Hey Darnell,
      Hope your Christmas and New Years was great.. Sorry about not replying sooner. I’ve been restricting my time on the computer, trying to give my sciatic nerves a break. I look forward to getting out there to see your birds…

  23. Top of the morning to you PAUL, hows the birds doing?? I pretty much shut down for the season, I was getting hit left and right by 2 different Falco’s (prairie & peregrine) so they got me in check now, so I’m just going to let them pass on threw and then I’ll be able to get them ready for the w/c this year. but I still got 4 kits with 18 birds in a box and 10 supa (champs) stocked so I’ll be ready Paul. Hows your birds comming along??? hey Paul I would like to pick up a blue bar sf. hen from you if you have any left. I would like to bring that blue bar sf. gene pool in my family of birds… hopefully a breeder or one thats getting ready to breed..

    • Hey Darnell,
      Sorry for the slow reply. I don’t have any blue bars, but I do have some open pattern blue checks. When you are in the area let me know. We both are overdue in birding out at one anothers lofts. Distance is a problem… Take care, buddy..

  24. Kevin Ancog Says:

    Aloha Paul,
    nice looking birds. Could you send me your E-mail to hook up.
    Kevin Honolulu Hawaii.

  25. Kevin Ancog Says:

    Aloha Paul,
    I were wondering if you have any muff roller pairs for sale.
    Mahalo keep on rolling.
    Kevin Honolulu Hawaii

  26. Aloha Paul,
    Nice looking muff rollers you have raised.
    I were wondering if you have any pairs for sell.
    Kevin..

  27. Hi Paul,
    Nice looking muff roller you bred.
    Just wondering if you have any pairs for sell.
    Kevin.

  28. THE PAGE AND BIRDS ARE VERY NICE I HAD SOME OF YOUR STRAIN IN 05 BREED BY A GUY NAME NEWMAN VARY GOOD BIRDS THE BEST!

    • Thanks for the compliment Leonard,
      Yes, Ed Newman used my family to make his strain. He is a good breeder and has a good eye.

  29. Thanks Paul,
    Received some Great looking muff roller today. Thanks again.
    Ahui Hou. God Blessed.

  30. Mark Caldwell Says:

    Hey Paul I met you years ago at Eddie Newman’s House when he lived on Arlington Ave. Anyway I came across a Blk Check Cock baned Gomez1980. Its this pigeon from your strain? I would highly appreciate your feedback. Thanks, Caldwell

    • larclub Says:

      Mark,
      Ron Dent and Leo Jiminez have both told me about that bird. Yes it is a bird from my strain. Please let me know specifically what you want to know

  31. Hello, My name is Mark Caldwell and I meet you years ago at Eddie Newmans house. I recently attained a black check banded -Gomez 1980-, could you please give me a breif history on bird.

  32. michael Says:

    how can i accuire some of your birds mr. gomez i have been rasing since i was twelve off and on and im looking to get back into doing this on a competitive level

    • larclub Says:

      Hi Michael,
      You can e-mail me at ezeedad@aol.com. However I have not bred my birds with kit competition in mind. Simultaneous performance is not something that I have bred for. Competitive kits can be made from my family, but it would probably be easier with some of the strains that are specifically bred for kit competition.

  33. Z-ROC ( SCR) Says:

    Thanks Mr. Gomez for the knowledge you spread thru-out the roller game. It’s a pleasure to know you. The inbreeding info is superb. And I love those muffs.

    • Thanks Z-Roc,
      We need to continue to pass on the knowledge of the highest qualities of these birds and to do our best to produce them as well. I’m just trying to do my small part. My muffs are hanging in there.. About half my fliers have some sort of muffs or grouse legs. Suffering heavy losses but that’s just the way it is now. The birds are capable of evolving along with the new conditions of heavier predation.

  34. Michael Spiegelberg Says:

    Beautiful website – Beautiful Birds Boy would it be nice to get my hands on some of them Pensom Type Rollers ! Nice work – Good Job ! Peace ! Mike Spiegelberg and Family ( Fridley , Minnesota )

  35. looking good as usual‚ keep up the good work.

  36. Michael Spiegelberg Says:

    Great Strain and Look Of Rollers You Have !! Thanks for Letting Me enjoy Them !!

  37. You have some really nice looking birds! I have some good birds; I’d let someone have a few if they are looking to start flying their own. If you know of anyone, please contact me on my cell (775) 427-2501 or via e-mail.

    • Thanks for the generous offer. There are a lot of roller fanciers up in the high desert area. Probably you will find some people very interested if you post your offer on the QSDC and/or Roller World websites. Their addresses are http://qsdcmag.ning.com/ and http://rollerworld.ning.com/. There are a lot of rollermen in the high desert area who frequent these sites. Paul

  38. Harry Ashcraft Says:

    MR GOMEZ, Thank you for forwarding my e.m. In going through these posts, I saw the BEST expression I ever seen on one of your pictures, she is gorgous PIC#736….r.red self…91.695.. she is of [ FRANKLY MY DEAR ] excellence…Is anyone flying Continentals ??….Keep up your endevors your doing fantastic…..Regards….Harry Ashcraft

    • larclub Says:

      Thanks Harry,
      That 695 was one of my all time farorites. She just had that look.. Strength and HEAT..!! She was the real deal… Thanks for the comment…
      I just called Darryl. He is the one with the Continentals, and he can probably get you in touch with other breeders who have them. He said that he will get in touch with you soon. If you wany t to e-mail him it is blazario@pacbell.net

  39. I found a small brown & slightly gray ? pidgeon? ? ? in Santa monica with feathers on its feet and a band that says Gomez with a number. who does it belong to? 310 699-0385

    • larclub Says:

      Hello Mary,
      Thanks for getting in touch with me about the pigeon. It was very interesting seeing the dental office that your husband had designed, and I was very impressed with his attention to all aspects of his profession. I can see why he is rated as one of California’s top dentists.
      The almond muff bird that you caught is bred from a pair that seems to have good survival instincts. A few of my birds were chased by the Coopers Hawk last Friday, and #400 was one that didn’t make it back. It hadn’t flown before the attack, so It didn’t know it’s way around.
      So thank you very much, and I hope you enjoy my book.
      Paul

  40. Your documentary was awesome, Mr. Gomez and your bird are breath takingly beautiful I love what you have done with your birds. Your cognitive awareness of your pigeon is definitely seen on a canvas with a broad brush very well done.

  41. Kenny Douglas Russel Maddox cousin Says:

    Kenny Douglas Edsel Maddox cousin.weeks before he died he have me big daddy the white almond cock and a tiny black self hen out of that silver hen high flyer that rolled for ever and never hit dirt.that through me solid rolling doughnut spinning whites and silver delta that’s Russel Maddox shared loft with Rudy black on Adams Blvd 818 357 4829

  42. Amazing a lot of terrific info!.
    With thanks. Loads of material!

  43. Danny Xiong Says:

    Do you have any colored muff for sale???

  44. Hi it’s justin I would to know do u know any body sell rollers contact me 1562 639 5693 thanks

  45. Richard and candy Says:

    Just saying hello friend hope all is well take care

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